Have you heard the one about climate skeptics wanting a debate on climate?
Well they got their wish but it was a disaster for them. Draw this Josh: Monckton fleeing the country and Anthony Watts bolting down WUWT.
Will Monckton return to the debate? I hope not because then I can deploy my modified Brave Sir Robin song:
Brave Sir Monckton ran away.
Bravely ran away away.
When debate reared it's ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
And I suspect he won't return to the debate because as mentioned earlier Watts has bolted the WUWT door to Hadfield/Potholer54:
REPLY: While I can’t hear what Hadfield is saying (he sounds like a British mumble to me) they seem totally infatuated with their manhunt, so much for Hadfield’s repeated claims of being “dispassionate and logical”. Thanks for posting this. When he starts colluding with that hateful “greenman”, all semblance of rational debate is destroyed.
This video then cements my decision not to provide any further space to Hadfield here. – Anthony
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/03/23/moncktons-slide-presentation-to-the-california-assembly/#comments
Of course we can't debate people who are infatuated with a mannhunt. Oops typo there. But really. Take a good look at that logic. All semblance of rational debate is destroyed. How? By hadfield being interviewed by greenman. What exactly is Anthony Watt's idea of "rational debate" that it could be destroyed in such a way.
Perhaps the debate simply isn't important enough. As Monckton puts it: "Many people like to engage in debates on inconsequentialities". What are these "inconsequentialities"? Only the underlying validity of the claims that Monckton goes on tour with to convince vast numbers of people that climate change is not a threat. Who cares whether those claims are valid? That's just inconsequential.
'Is'?
ReplyDeleteIt's a given not a 'is' :)
I'm increasingly of the opinion that 'debate' at WU is like trying to debate with the worst kind of surly, wont learn because they know everything, adolescents - and they have a 'big' mate who protects them. It's a no win situation, they wont listen, they don't want to listen but they want to have a laugh with their mates at the expensive of the adults who've done some homework and are getting on.
All semblance of rational debate is destroyed... right. When reading bizarre and inexplicable stories like this, I'm often haunted by their semblance to (collective) narcissism. They have standards and values, but a different (much more strict) set seems to apply to outsiders. As demonstrated here, demotion to the latter category may occur in the blink of an eye, for any reason, and is not reversible - unless by way of YOU aligning your views to theirs again. Hence also the "asymmetric criticism" - why be critical of oneself if one knows it all so well?
ReplyDeleteThe Kockheads are footing some of the bill for Anthony Watts....you don't think they would allow "one of theirs" (Monckton) to go down in flames on Anthony's website? Trouble is....it's a little late, and I think Monkton's plane has been forever disabled in the minds of anyone with "independent thought."
ReplyDeleteFor me....it just drives me to make sure the truth that global warming is indeed happening, and man is causing most of it.